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this brewing war is all very fun, but let's not forget that life goes on. one immensely bland and inscrutably bureaucratic aspect of that life-as-it-will-be is the hague conference. on occasion, i've made noise about on the list; the only response i've gotten was a note from pit schultz, whose remarks suggested that he had just woken up, sort of. in any event, i guarantee that you: when the hague conference passes you'll squeal like stuck pigs. so it might be a good idea to familiarize yourselves, at least in pas- sing, with its impenetrable language. how will it affect you? it is: the 'hague conference on' JURISDICTION and FOREIGN JUDGMENTS in CIVIL AND COMMERCIAL MATTERS. basically that means X corp can sue *you* in Y country, then press--merely as a matter of proce- dure among signatories--to have that settlement enforced by YOUR country. so, (a) if you're considering getting mixed up in, say, anticorporate activism, and (b) would prefer not to have to hire a lawyer in uruguay or singapore to defend yourself against some charges that you did something in the US or UK, then it might be useful to pay slightly more attention to this development. cheers, t - subject: [Hague-jur-commercial-law] European Commission: Public Hearing on the Hague Convention on October24, 2001 date: Fri, 14 Sep 2001 10:59:45 -0400 from: Manon Ress <mress@essential.org> organization: Essential Information to: haguelist <Hague-jur-commercial-law@venice.essential.org> The European Commission has announced a public hearing on the Judgments Convention. The announcement has a detailed set of questions. http://europa.eu.int/comm/justice_home/unit/civil/audition10_01/en/index.htm QUESTIONNAIRE ON THE PREPARATION OF THE HEARING ON THE DRAFT CONVENTION OF THE HAGUE CONFERENCE ON JURISDICTION AND FOREIGN JUDGMENTS IN CIVIL AND COMMERCIAL MATTERS NB: This questionnaire refers to the latest version which is the outcome of the first diplomatic session in the Hague in June 2001. 1 General matters Does the draft Convention of the Hague Conference appear to you to be valuable for Community nationals and firms today? More generally, does this kind of draft, which would make it possible to organise the free movement of judgments in civil and commercial matters between the Community Member States and certain third countries, meet a need? Explain. If so, on what conditions does such a project seem to you viable and acceptable for the Community and its Member States? What advantages would you expect from such a Convention? What disadvantages would you under no circumstances expect? Does the nature of the current (mix) draft convention appear you to correspond to the needs that legal practitioners and economic operators feel within the framework of their activities? Explain. For that purpose, what terms of reference should at least appear in the list of grounds of jurisdiction admitted by the Convention ("white list")? What do you think of the existence of a "grey area" of grounds of jurisdiction of national law in the Convention, and how do you perceive this characteristic in relation to the European system of the Brussels Convention of 1968 and of Regulation 44/2001, known as the "Brussels I" Regulation (perceived advantages and disadvantages)? Would a simple Convention, covering only recognition and enforcement of judgments, without laying down rules of jurisdiction directly applicable by the court of origin as in the current draft, strike you as worthy of interest? Does the presence in the Convention of a "black list" containing prohibited grounds of jurisdiction seem essential to you or not? If so, what grounds do you believe should be on the list? Would you accept that "doing business" (Article 18-2, e) could be abolished as a ground of jurisdiction in the current list? Explain. Several relatively similar provisions aim to protect the suppliers using electronic means who take specific precautions regarding subjection to the jurisdiction of certain courts (Article 6, alternative 2, paragraph 3; Article 7-3; Article 10-3). Do you think that these provisions are likely to fill the avowed objective, and if not, what would you propose instead? 2. Substantive scope (Article 1 ) 2.1 Do all the exclusions allowed by Article 1 seem to you to be justified and clear? If not, which ones should not be found on the list of exclusions, and conversely, are there certain fields you believe should also be excluded from the field of the Convention? Explain. 2.2 There was no consensus or agreement on the scope of the exclusions in square brackets in Article 1 (antitrust or competition claims, nuclear liability, property rights in rem, validity, nullity and dissolution of legal persons). Which of these exclusions do you think are justified, and which not? Explain. 2.3 measures from the scope of this Convention? If so, do you consider it desirable to include jurisdiction to order interim payments in the list of prohibited grounds of jurisdiction? 3. General rule of jurisdiction (Article 3) With regard to the location of natural persons, since the last meeting, an alternative to the traditional criterion of the defendant’s habitual residence (Article 3-1) is proposed (Article 3-2), though there is no consensus on it (cf. note 17). Which alternative appears the more suitable to you? Explain. Does Article 3-3, relating to the linking factors for legal persons, seem suitable to you to business practice? If not, explain. 4 Choice of court (Article 4) Does it seem important to you that there should be a provision in the draft concerning the parties’ choices of one or of more courts to settle disputes between them? Give any information you can on the frequency of use of this type of clause in the business world. If so, does the proposed text correspond to needs inherent in business practice? Do you encounter difficulties in having judgments given on the basis of choice-of-court clauses enforced? Does a proposal to restrict the choice of the contracting parties to the designation of the courts of a contracting state only seem realistic to you (cf. note 19)? 5. Contracts and forum of the activity (Article 6) Of the two alternatives proposed in Article 6 - that based on the activity (A) or that based on the place of execution (B) - which is the more acceptable to you (see footnotes 33 and 42)? Can the two alternatives be combined? With regard to alternative A (forum based on activity), indicate whether you have an opinion as the drafting options in square brackets (footnotes 35, 36 and 37). With regard to Article 6, alternative A, paragraph 2, indicate which alternative, if any, appears the most suitable to you. Explain. 6. Contracts concluded by consumers Generally speaking, does a provision of this nature, which confers jurisdiction on the courts of the consumer’s usual residence in the event of a dispute with a professional, seem useful to you in the draft convention? If so, should such a provision be confined to contracts concluded by natural persons acting as consumers for personal or family needs or extended to transactions by legal persons or professionals for needs not directly connected with their activities? Should this rule be confined to contractual actions or extended to other, e.g. actions on torts and delicts ? Should a professional be able to bring an action on a consumer contract against the consumer only before the courts for the consumer’s place of residence? Do choice-of-court clauses usually appear in international consumer contracts to which you are parties, in particular contracts concluded on-line? If so, which courts tend to be designated? Are they used regularly? The text resulting from the meeting of June 2001 contains 3 alternatives A, B and C, for paragraphs 5 and 6 of Article 7. Do you have any preference for one or the other of them, or even a combination of some of them? In contrast with Regulation 44/2001 (« Brussels I »), the draft of the Convention does not include special rules on insurance. Do you think that it should include such rules? If yes, what should be the criteria for attributing jurisdiction in the case of disputes in matters relating to insurance (domicile of the insurer, of the insured, place of the damaged property or of the harmful event…)? Should these rules cover all types of insurance or only certain types (large risks or consumer…)? What is your experience in this area? 7. Rule concerning individual contracts of employment Do the proposals in the annex II (proposals 1 et 2) seem acceptable to you? Do you think that it is useful in a draft of this nature to have a ground of jurisdiction that specifically protects workers? Explain. Are choice-of-court clauses commonly included in international employment contracts? If so, which courts do they designate? Are they applied in practice? 8. Branches Article 9(1), apart from the text contained in square brackets, is comparable to Article 5-5 of the Brussels Regulation 44/2001 does it seem acceptable to you in the context of the draft of the Hague Conference? Should a provision of this nature include a court in the place "in which the defendant has carried on regular commercial activity by other means"? What do you think of the new paragraph 2 in square brackets? More generally, how do you think subsidiaries should be treated by the draft Convention (cf.. also Article 18-2, k)? 9. Torts or delicts Is a general ground of jurisdiction for torts or delicts acceptable in this draft? What do you think of the text proposed for paragraphs 1 (a) and (b)? Are there fields in which the current text of Article 10 of the draft would be likely to raise implementation difficulties? Explain. 2 Should there be a ground of activity-based jurisdiction as regards torts and delicts in the draft convention? Do you think that paragraph 4 should be deleted? Should paragraph 5 be removed in its entirety, or only the last part of this paragraph ("... unless the injured person has his or her usual residence in that State")? 10. Trusts Article 11(3) specifies that this provision applies only to disputes within the trust, i.e. to disputes between trustee, settlor and beneficiaries. It means therefore that disputes between the parties to the trust and third parties are governed by the draft’s other provisions on jurisprudence. Should this provision, which simply takes over the terms of the report but appears in square brackets, be maintained? 11. Exclusive jurisdiction Should the Convention contain a list of exclusive grounds of jurisdiction, i.e. grounds applying regardless of the parties’ habitual residence and allowing no prorogation of forum or exercise of lis pendens or of "forum non conveniens"? Does the limited list of exclusive grounds in Article 12 seem suitable and useful to you? 2 As regards property rights in rem or tenancies of immovable property Should the court for the place where the property is situated have exclusive jurisdiction in the Convention for disputes covering property rights in rem? Tenancies of immovable property? Certain tenancies? If so, which? B 11.3 Intellectual property Patent and trademark rights 11.3.1 - The scope of application of the Convention includes intellectual property, subject to a safeguard under the exclusive jurisdiction rules of Article 12. Do you consider this safeguard to be sufficient in principle, or should the Convention also include rules that would maintain the application of the rules on jurisdiction in either existing or future Community instruments concerning intellectual property? For example, should the special jurisdiction rules included in Regulation 40/94 on the Community trademark continue to apply as they are notwithstanding the jurisdiction rules of the Convention which could lead to a different result? The same question arises with respect to future instruments on the Community patent and on Community designs and models. Article 12(3) contains two alternatives, A and B. The main question to be solved is whether infringement actions should be within the exclusive jurisdiction. Which of these two alternatives seems the most suitable one to you for the Convention? Do you consider that proceedings for infringement of intellectual property rights should or should not benefit from exclusive jurisdiction in the same way as proceedings for validity or revocation? Could you explain why ? Explain. - The text of Article 12, paragraph 4 covers patents and trademarks. Should other intellectual property rights based on registration (for instance, designs and models) be treated the same way? - How should unregistered intellectual property rights be treated in the Convention (for instance, unregistered trademarks or designs)? Should they also benefit from exclusive jurisdiction rules? 11.3.2 Should there be non-exclusive jurisdiction when a question that is otherwise covered by paragraphs 4 and 5 of Article 12 is raised on an incidental basis in proceedings not primarily concerning the questions dealt with in those paragraphs? Copyright and neighbouring rights Paragraph 7 concerns copyright and neighbouring rights. Which of the two alternatives in square brackets is the more acceptable to you? More generally, how should the Convention deal with these rights? - Should copyright and neighbouring rights be excluded in whole or in part from the Convention? If so, why? - If these judgements should be included, do you think that specific safeguards should be provided? - Does exclusive jurisdiction (for the courts of the country where an act of exploitation takes place) fit for copyright and neighbouring rights litigation? - Do you have any other suggestions for safeguards? If these matters are maintained within the Convention, would an additional ground for refusal of recognition or enforcement of judgements in copyright and neighbouring rights matters, such as would be an appropriate mean to address possible concerns (for example in the case where recognition and enforcement are obviously incompatible with the rules concerning conflicts of laws of the State requested, unless the result would have been reached by observing these rules would have been the same as that which the required court reached in giving its judgment Or, on the same hypothesis, for example should recognition and enforcement of a judgment on copyright and neighbouring rights be refused if the original judgment would be manifestly incompatible with principles of intellectual property protection of the State. 12. Provisional and protective measures 12.1 Do you think that provisional and protective measures taken on the basis of national law should be capable of being recognised and enforced in the other contracting States or simply be available under the Convention? 12.2 The 1999 preliminary draft dealt with the provisional or protective measures. Do you think that the Convention should be confined to measures that are both provisional and protective (see footnote 94 in the new text)? 12.3 Do you think that the Convention should define what is a provisional and protective measure for its own purposes? What do you think of the definitions in Article 13(4)? Do you feel they are capable of covering all the provisional and protective measures useful to the business world? 12.4 What do you expect from a provision on the provisional or protective measures in a Convention of this nature? What needs would such a provision help to meet? Explain. On the contrary, should certain fields perhaps be excluded from a provision allowing the movement of provisional and/or protective measures? 13. Jurisdiction based on national law Should the grounds of jurisdiction under national law be available even against a protective provision (Articles 7 and 8) or an exclusive jurisdiction? (this question is related to 6-1, 7-1 and 11-1) (Cf. note 105). 14. Prohibited grounds of jurisdiction Do the grounds of jurisdiction that it is considered desirable to prohibit and that are on this list appear to you to have been well characterised? In the course of your professional experience or in conducting cases in third countries, have you already been confronted with the exercise of the one or more of these grounds of jurisdiction? Describe and explain. What is your opinion of the human rights exception in Article 18-3? Is it circumscribed sufficiently or is it too broad? Explain. 15. Lis pendens and "forum non conveniens" Does the lis pendens mechanism appear to you to be clear enough and capable of underlying an effective court procedure? What do you think of the mechanism relating to the refusal by a court to exercise the jurisdiction on the basis of Article 22 of the draft convention? Do the guarantees provided for in paragraph 4 for the applicant’s benefit appear you sufficiently effective to preserve his rights vis-à-vis a dilatory request from the defendant for the court to decline jurisdiction? If not, what would you recommend? 16. Recognition and enforcement Do the recognition and enforcement rules appear to you to be sufficiently liberal or rather likely to allow excessive free movement of judgements? Do they seem to you to be still too restrictive to encourage recognition and enforcement? Explain. Would a provision allowing legal aid to be granted for natural persons residing in a contracting State for recognition and enforcement proceedings in another contracting state, of the kind in Article 32, seem useful to you? What is your opinion of Article 33, which would allow recognition and enforcement in the Member States of non-compensatory damages, including exemplary and punitive damages, and court costs and expenses, on certain conditions? Do you think the Convention should allow the enforcement of authentic instruments and approved out-of-court settlements? If so, by what procedures? 17. Relationship between the Hague Convention and European instruments (Article 37, Annex I) To what extent do you think that the Hague Convention should preserve the operation of European instruments relating to jurisdiction and/or the recognition and enforcement of judgments in civil and commercial matters, and in particular Regulation No 44/2001 (Brussels 1)? In particular, where the defendant is domiciled in a Community Member State but the claimant is in a non-member country, do you think that Regulation No 44/2001 should be applied? 18. Ratification and accession (Article 42) 18.1 Do you think that the Convention should apply only between the Community, the Member States and the other contracting States who have expressly chosen to be bound to each other (bilateralisation of entry into force) or that ratification could be open to all the Hague Conference Member States at the diplomatic conference? We would be very glad to receive your written answers (please feel free to answer only to the questions that interest you) before the hearing (by e-mail: JAI-coop-jud-civil@cec.eu.int or by fax: 32/2/299.64.57). The hearing will be devoted to an open discussion on the most important questions. 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