McKenzie Wark on Thu, 1 Nov 2001 02:54:49 +0100 (CET) |
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Re: <nettime> from hypertext to codework |
Andreas writes, >i fully respect your examples as artistic/literary practices, but in what >way are jodi, mez, antiorp/nn, sondheim etc. >representatives of open >processes?... what you describe are machinic processes, yes, but the kinds >of collaborative practices that heico >idensen talks about (in the >hypertext world mainly) - i don't see them in your codework examples. is >artistic codework more authorial than open source programming? Well, isn't this a collaborative process, this discussion? Isn't nettime "collaborative filtering?" There's some limitations in what the examples given might uphold. Its not as if everything is in the text. I'm more interested in a new way of thinking about the practice of writing. Semiotics and structural linguistics have a lot to answer for. They created a concept of language as a homogemous plane, which then entered into relations with the world as something external. What's interesting about Guattari is the anti-linguistics in which one thinks of the speech act as an element in a heterogeneous, temporal series. It seems to me timely to think of some of the new writing practices in those terms. Hypertext had its roots firmly in a (post)structural linguistics, and it shows in the early works composed under its sign. All the action is in the 'text'. There's not a lot of thought about the hetereogeneous assemblages into which it might enter. k ___________________________________________________ http://www.feelergauge.net/projects/hackermanifesto/version_2.0/ ... we no longer have roots, we have aerials ... ___________________________________________________ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net