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james_jesus_nettime on Mon, 1 Sep 2003 07:06:35 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> Earth Station 5 Declares War Against The Motion Picture 
     Carl Guderian <carlg {AT} vermilion-sands.com>
     t byfield <tbyfield {AT} panix.com>
     Carl Guderian <carlg {AT} vermilion-sands.com>
     Are Flagan <areflagan {AT} transcodex.net>

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:18:22 +0000
From: Carl Guderian <carlg {AT} vermilion-sands.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Earth Station 5 Declares War Against The Motion Picture 

auskadi wrote:
> 
> Nettimers,
> 
> I love the rhetoric here but need to play with it to see if it lives up
> to the job in practice.
> 
> http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=SVBIZINK2.story&STORY=/www/story/08-19-2003/0002003023&EDATE=TUE+Aug+19+2003,+06:14+AM

I'd love to see some hard data on this. Some (other) paranoid friends
looked it over earlier in the week and the address and whois seemed to
check out, but they didn't have the resources (or connections) to really
go in depth.

No points for suggesting Mossad Trojan Horse (for zombifying your PC to
blast local pro-Palestinian websites offline), or pointing out that
Palestinian enclaves aren't usually associated with burgeoning software
industries or high bandwidth and have enough enemies to add the RIAA and
WIPO to the list. How anyone can keep Terminator 3 on a server that's
constantly in danger of being shelled or bulldozed is beyond me.

But I wouldn't go around installing strange executables on my PC, even
from ideological fellow travelers. Maybe somebody can take it apart and
see what makes it tick?

Carl

-- 
Games are very educational. Scrabble teaches us vocabulary, Monopoly 
teaches us cash-flow management, and D&D teaches us to loot the bodies. 
-- Steve Jackson

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 16:58:49 -0400
From: t byfield <tbyfield {AT} panix.com>
Subject: Earth Station 5: \/|_Tr4 |<-r4|> '1337 |<3\/\/|_!!!

auskadi {AT} tvcabo.co.mz (Thu 08/28/03 at 02:35 PM +0200):

> I love the rhetoric here but need to play with it to see if it lives up 
> to the job in practice.

i love:

     (1) the byline: ('JENIN, West Bank, Aug. 19 /PRNewswire/ --'? uh, yeah)
     (2) FREE *EVERYTHING* except 'nelson mandela' (but they do include sex)
     (3) the idea that this 'service' is operating out of the gaza strip and
         jenin, where we all know broadband is *really* taking off and the
         lines are buzzing with talk about how great americans are
     (4) the well-established reputations of 'ras kabir'

and everything else about it: the 'about section' of the site, traceroutes,
etc, etc.

< http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FJ%25Ka.6756%24v71.4168%40nwrddc01.gnilink.net >

cheers,
t

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Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2003 21:01:21 +0000
From: Carl Guderian <carlg {AT} vermilion-sands.com>
Subject: Re: <nettime> Earth Station 5 Declares War Against The Motion Picture 

auskadi wrote:

> Nettimers,
> 
> I love the rhetoric here but need to play with it to see if it lives up
> to the job in practice.

This guy swears it's RIAA spyware. Truth or black propaganda? Nobody
knows until we see the source code:

http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=FJ%25Ka.6756%24v71.4168%40nwrddc01.gnilink.net

Slashdot post from 14 July degenerated into the usual trollery and no
actual info.

Carl

sticking with earthbound P2P


-- 
Games are very educational. Scrabble teaches us vocabulary, Monopoly 
teaches us cash-flow management, and D&D teaches us to loot the bodies. 
-- Steve Jackson

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Date: Mon, 01 Sep 2003 01:32:28 +0200
Subject: Re: <nettime> Earth Station 5 Declares War Against The Motion
From: Are Flagan <areflagan {AT} transcodex.net>

Re: 8/28/03 14:35, "auskadi" <auskadi {AT} tvcabo.co.mz>:

> Nettimers,
> 
> I love the rhetoric here but need to play with it to see if it lives up
> to the job in practice.

It's apparently a Trojan Horse full of spyware. Company claims and server
locations do not pan out etc. It may actually live up to _some_ job in
practice. The integrated dating service is rumored to have been initiated to
easily add to the 8000+ list of lawsuits the RIAA is filing; the proxy
servers hosted by the company allegedly serving as MPAA sponsored honeypots
(not privacy shields).

I, too, love the rhetoric.

-af

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