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Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate
jaromil on Mon, 17 Nov 2008 06:14:54 +0100 (CET)


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Re: <nettime> If Only Indymedia Learnt To Innovate


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On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 02:19:06PM +0100, Brian Holmes wrote:
> Naeem Mohaiemen wrote:
> 
> > People give all their data to large corporations-- you're damn right
> > that's a concern, but IMC created that opportunity by not changing
> > with the time.
> > 
> > To paraphrase the Village Voice, the left stays pure and makes street
> > theater while the right (and center) takes control of the levels of
> > power.
> 
> Indymedia was THE great inspiration and vector of the movement of 
> movements. On Friday I was looking for pictures of the Rome demos with 
> an Italian friend and I said, how about Indymedia? No, it's dead in 
> Italy.

looking at this http://italy.indymedia.org i wouldn't say it's dead.

your  friend  might  update  himself:  indy.it had  a  year  of  going
underground, while regional networks  got stronger, looking forward to
a  new  platform  that  would  aggregate  multiple  feeds,  respecting
differences and a progressive verticalisation that was causing clashes
in the larger "national" ((i)) context

now is better than  ever and, as in many other places  in Europe, is a
reference for "non-aligned" information exchange.

Naeem and Theor,  sorry to say, but yours are  just rants ignoring the
real  reasons  impeding  the  improvements  you  look  for:  licensing
restrictions  imposed by commercial  monopolies of  multimedia formats
on-line.  It is not to blame the inefficiency of our collectivity, but
the prevarication of business monopolies, that now have an opportunity
to exploit  the memories you uploaded on-line  using their proprietary
formats.

ciao


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jaromil, dyne.org developer, http://jaromil.dyne.org

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