Re: <nettime> crowd-funding on nettime

[Andreas Broeckmann <broeckmann@leuphana.de>]

folks,

first, in my experience, nothing takes 5-10 secs, and even if it does, 
there are always at least 24 instances of this which makes it 2-4 mins, 
plus x. (i think that proposals like keith's should come with a donation 
of personal time to get such simple routines started.)

second, maybe i'm too stupid, but if i understand keith correctly, he is 
suggesting that by allowing crowd-funding requests we might - at least 
here on the list - defetishize money and create a zone where the laws of 
capitalism (or its moral economy) are subverted, or at least ignored? 
because we integrate those requests into our dedifferentiated social 
relations? crowd-funding requests flushing alienation out of nettime's 
Windows?

i'd be surprised...

-a

Am 28.08.12 13:21, schrieb Patrice Riemens:

<...>
> Keith has the best argument, immo. Esp the 5-10 secs part ;-) Myself was
> thinking about a separate CF list, like we have announce (or had), but I think
> Keith's suggestion is smarter: trust the mods & then go after yr intuition (&
> pocket-book). After all crowd-funding is a clear, and sympathetic alternative
> to other types of (capitalist) sponsoring models. Maybe one should think about
> an appropriate format (roughly) and also a clear 1st line announce, eg "this
> is a crowd-funding apeal"?
> Cheers, p+4D!


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