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Re: <nettime> NSA-spying-on-Europe outrage somewhat disingenuous
Marko Peljhan on Wed, 3 Jul 2013 02:30:43 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> NSA-spying-on-Europe outrage somewhat disingenuous


john,
the problem is not that this is happening and a lot of people were aware of it. the problem is that it is most probably unconstitutional in most legal systems where it is happening (well, the german constitutional court is not of my opinion, so the argument is quickly thinner...) and since the constitutions are thin membranes between total control and usurpation of power and a semblance of some sort of representation (this concept has been eroded quite efficiently in most places
too), they are indeed the last line of defense.
legal and political systems have evolved with and adapted so much to total corporate and state surveillance that maybe the only actionable answers lie in tactical countersurveillance, in deep exposure of the underlying mechanisms of the surveillance architectures of the 21st century. this methods definitely have solid historical precedents. i would not be so cynical and claim that everybody knew it and so what, lets check out.
this debate is long overdue and we should welcome it.
otherwise, Desolation Row.

mx

Do i hear a taxi beeping round the corner?


 On 7/2/13 12:57 PM, John Young wrote:

Well yelled, Heiko.
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