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Re: <nettime> Live Your Models
jan hendrik brueggemeier on Sat, 7 May 2016 14:09:19 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> Live Your Models

Hi Florian -

Thanks for sharing this. The critique of folk politics is an interesting 
one. Although I share Brian's view about to focus on a more convergent 
approach "to work constructively with the many forms of resistance". I 
also feel like that a small scale approach, although maybe not the most 
efficient one, is still a very promising and important step in 
disentangling ourselves from more globalist forms of economy that just 
keeps sleepwalking in one direction.

Speaking of radical pragmatism and following your logical explanation, I 
wonder if the most pragmatic and probably radical measure in terms of 
energy efficiency and human impact on climate change would be to control 
the growth of the human population. And in consequence to avoid that 
human population will reach 10 billion.

The American, women-led initiative Conceivable Future 
(http://conceivablefuture.org/) with its slogan "The climate crisis is a 
reproductive crisis" does hint in this direction but in the end avoids 
deliberately any final and fixed views on this topic.

I understand that Tim Palmer in "Beyond Futility" is arguing that to not 
address population growth within an US American context is actually a 
capitalist agenda. In this light immigration, which is the main driver 
for population in the US also means that the number of consumers in one 
of the highest per capita energy consuming economies keeps growing. 
According to people like Palmer no efficiency measure can keep up with 
this growth of population.

Not having settled on a position here myself, I do wonder if this is 
the elephant in the room for the discussion here.


On 5/05/2016 8:20 AM, Florian Cramer wrote:

>   My point is radically pragmatic. In most cases, production (or services
>   like a web server) is more resource-efficient at larger scale.

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