David Garcia on Mon, 28 Jan 2019 15:44:31 +0100 (CET) |
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I agree Felix that it is probably too late for Brexit..but... there remains a chance that the parliamentary log jam means that other options cannot gain a majority and there is enough of a realisation that ‘crashing out without a deal’ would be a disaster to make another referendum least worst option left.. Perhaps May has just enough grasp of reality to realise that a ’no deal brexit’ would keep her party out of office for a generation. Under those circumstances it would be likely that rather than repeat the polarising fiasco of the 2016 vote we would adopt a more thoughtful approach that would include Citizens Forums as part of the equation. This scenario although unlikely remains a possibility and so it is important to be prepared for this eventuality.. To answer you question about Labour’s position: they have proposed a ‘softer version’ of Brexit which involves reamaining in a customs union which would make the Irish boarder problem soluble and they called for a vote of no confidence in May which she won. So no General Election likely unless May tries a last roll of the dice rather than going down the other paths which are all unpalatable. So the brexit car is stuck deep in the mud.. the wheels are spinning….. we are going no-where… except for sliding into fuck knows where… And that it is not so much a journey as a predicament and is why we can’t yet rule out another referendum not because anybody wants one but…well you know…. We are Sooo fucked! David PS for the record below is Stella Creasy’s proposed amendment that may be considered tomorow but will almost certainly not be selected for consideration. Labour MP
Stella Creasy's amendment Requires
the government to ask the EU to postpone Brexit day for an unspecified period
and give the public more say in the Brexit process through a 250-member
"Citizens' Assembly". This would: * comprise a "representative sample of the population" to make recommendations on the Brexit process after 10 weeks of consideration * be supported by an "expert advisory group” * require the government to respond within two weeks
On 28 Jan 2019, at 13:55, Felix Stalder <felix@openflows.com> wrote:
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