Christian Swertz via nettime-l on Fri, 22 Dec 2023 12:04:31 +0100 (CET)
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Hello,
Am 21.12.23 um 20:03 schrieb Ted Byfield via nettime-l:
So, again: when someone laments the "silence on" some subject, one way to understand that gesture — just one way, not the only ways — is that it assumes a traditional, even nostalgic model of discourse, and on that basis diagnoses a collective failure.
Silence is defined as a traditional model of discourse? I have to admit
that this seems not intuitive to me. I tried to translate it to German -
but the result does not make sense in relation to the definition. Maybe
you can help me with a hint on the other ways to define "silence"?
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Christian Swertz
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