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Re: [Nettime-nl] logo war & parody
MF on Mon, 29 Apr 2002 16:40:01 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: [Nettime-nl] logo war & parody


http://www.chillingeffects.org is hiervoor in het leven geroepen.
voor een parodieverweer: http://www.chillingeffects.org/protest/

Groet,
Mark

Eveline Lubbers wrote:

> Interessante zaak. Bedrijf stuurt dreigbrieven aan aktiegroep
> Aseed om bedrijfslogo van aktie-site af te krijgen.
> Het gaat om parodie-gebruik van het bedrijfslogo op de website
> van de aktiegroep.
> Het is in het engels maar het gaat om een zaak in Nederland..
> gr
> eveline
>
> Eyeforenergy wants A SEED to remove a parody of their logo from our website. But
> who the fuck do they think they are? Why do we have this logo on our site? And
> why aren't they as 'unbiased' as the say? The full story at
> http://www.aseed.net/eye/conversation.htm
>
> Introduction
>
> Eye for (an) Eye: Defamation and Illegal practices in perspective
>
> On the Tuesday the 23rd April, A SEED received a phone call from Eyeforenergy
> asking us to remove their logo from our website, citing the reason that we were
> using their logo illegally and hence contravening trademark laws in the EU and
> Europe.
>
> Next day, wednesday the 24th of April, they contacted our webserver Antenna, by
> phone and a lot of emails. If the logo isn't removed within one day they will
> start a legal action which may result in both our and other Antenna sites being
> shut down, 'until the problem is sorted out.' And at the end of this email
> shamelessly try to show their good intentions towards the world: "This would end
> up not only taking down A SEED's presence on the web, but no doubt other
> non-profits as well. It would seem that would be counterproductive to the aims
> of the organizations you support." Moreover they changed the charge at bit; it
> is not their logo that is the problem but the version where we changed the text.
> According to them the A SEED website "contains defamatory and illegal content,
> the main offender being an altered version of our logo, which contravenes
> trademark laws throughout the EU and Europe."
>
> At this moment we are searching for information about this issue and what rights
> and choices we have. Quite a few people have been helpful, and for our 'problem'
> we have received different kinds of advice. Another problem is that we don't
> have money (and don't have people and time) for a court case. For now we removed
> the pictures from our host, Antenna. They support us but don't have money for a
> court case either. Instead of hosting the pictures at Antenna we just have links
> to other places, so the site still looks the same. This will change the legal
> situation, but we aren't safe yet (see case Deutsche Bahn against Xs4all and
> Indymedia.nl). Our argument against Eyeforenergy is this is satire and not their
> logo. As long as you don't use this for making profits, this has never been a
> problem. But whatever happens afterwards, we will make sure Eyeforenergy will
> get some bad publicity because of this. (Ha, Ha)
>
> ---cut--
>
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