scotartt on 17 Aug 2000 22:33:36 -0000

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[Nettime-bold] Re: <nettime> Terror In Tune Town


just to point out;

what proportion of profit does redistribute to artists? how does
that compare to say Sony Music? your personal position is very interesting,
but its the type of thing Metallica might well say about *their* record

So. I don't your statement changes my position at all. Of course I am aware
that *some* artists get paid decent money; I was exaggerating a bit
by saying they *never* pay, but overall, is STILL just the new
corporate fuck screwing artists -- just with a different model to the one
record companies use.


----- Original Message -----
From: Steven Meinking <>
To: Nettime-L <>
Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 8:06 AM
Subject: re: <nettime> Terror In Tune Town

> I actually wanted to wade into this discussion some time ago, but have
> been far too busy. Scot's most recent response prompted me to
> > However as a musician, I don't find much positive development in either
> > Napster, or its trenchant corporate opposition. It, and others eg
> > etc, are just the *new* record company; one that doesn't ever pay its
> > artists anything. Its just corporations fighting other corporations
> > rarely a thought of the people they claim to represent.
> I completely disagree with the above for several reasons, and the
> statement concerning MP3.Com is blatantly false.
> I am a musician/songwriter as well. So you have an idea of where I'm
> coming from, I am against intellectual property of any kind. If Napster
> has succeeded in doing anything at all, it has been the loosening of the
> bonds of distribution and the critical raising of the issue of
> intellectual property rights. I consider both accomplishments positive
> developments, particularly in the wake of the death grip the recording
> industry has had on music for several decades now.
> As for Mp3.Com, how can I complain. I joined them around the time they
> were just gathering steam, a little over a year and a half ago. My music
> is extremely diverse and very unconventional. Realistically, it had no
> chance of making a major label and thus of never being heard. Mp3.Com
> provided me an opportunity to make my music available to an audience I
> never could have dreamed of reaching, and without direct cost to me to
> boot. Thanks to Mp3.Com the world has been my stage and I've had over
> fifteen thousand people download or listen to my songs since joining
> site.
> However, that simple gratification was not the end. I have also made a
> considerable amount of money through cd sales and pay-4-play downloading,
> money which I have been paid by Mp3.Com. Considering the fact that I
> expected to make any money at all and that making music is just a hobby,
> am rather pleased that my work and effort does not go entirely
> Mp3.Com still has a long way to go in terms of building rapport with the
> artists under its wing, and they really are nothing more than a _new_
> record company, but they have paid me, I still control my music's
> availability and distribution, and my music continues to be heard around
> the world. I fail to see the negative development in that.
> Yours in auditory waves,
> Steven Meinking
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