Joly MacFie on Sat, 18 Dec 2010 20:53:08 +0100 (CET)

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Re: <nettime> Wikileaks and spam

I see there's some follow up on

including a response from

> We find it very disturbing that Spamhaus labels a site as dangerous
> without even checking if there is any malware on it. We monitor the
> wikileaks.infosite and we can guarantee that there is no malware on
> it. We do not know who else is hosted with Heihachi Ltd and it is
> none of our business. They provide reliable hosting to us. That's
> it.

> While we are in favour of 'Blacklists', be it for mail servers or
> websites, they have to be compiled with care. Just listing whole IP
> blocks as 'bad' may be quick and easy for the blacklist editors, but
> will harm hosters and web site users.

> Wikileaks has been pulled from big hosters like Amazon. That's why
> we are using a 'bulletproof' hoster that does not just kick a site
> when it gets a letter from government or a big company. Our hoster
> is giving home to many political sites like
> and should not be blocked just because they might have hosted some
> malware sites.

> Fortunately, more responsible blacklists, like
> (which protects the Firefox browser, for example), don't list us. We
> do hope that Spamhaus hasn't issued this statement due to political
> pressure.

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