carlo von lynX on Mon, 28 Mar 2016 12:54:43 +0200 (CEST)

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Re: <nettime> Richard Stallman: Eradicate Facebook!

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 4:51 AM, carlo von lynX <

> > I think we need distributed social networking, with nodes that act
> > like a Facebook on your own device but only interact through a network
> > of agnostic relays, Tor style, with zero external authorities. Not even
> > "trusted" people running some pods or other overinformed server nodes.
> > That's what I'm working on since 2010.

On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 07:13:20PM +0100, Florian Cramer wrote:

> Yet these alternative visions of social networking don't necessarily solve
> the issue of data mining, unless they're based on strong cryptography and
> cryptographic webs of trust that strictly limit the readability of content
> to one's selected peers.

Of course I was speaking of doing it crypto all over.. and the 
readability is limited to the selected chunk of social graph that 
is allowed to subscribe to certain channels. So data mining is only
available to the legitimate recipients of those channels - in other words,
regular human treason / infiltration of groups by social engineering
is still possible, but no bulk surveillance & analysis.

> Many critics and activists glorify the pre-Facebook times of individual
> homepages and blogs. However, these systems can even be better data-mined
> by third parties than proprietary social networks, especially given today's
> refinement of web technology (with its refined social interaction designs,
> meta data architectures, geolocation APIs etc.).

Yes. Somewhere I wrote a piece on how the Internet was never free and
we need to create it first.

> But even a mailing list like Nettime is fully open data for everyone,
> except for the list of subscribers.

It is fully xkeyscore most of all. Just as all email and
all websites with email notification such as bug trackers...

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