Johnatan Petterson on Fri, 26 Oct 2018 01:40:26 +0200 (CEST)


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i have seen isabelle stengers in brussels in 1994 who was dissing "economy" as the "real enemy" of movements
she was connected with.
the leftish dream of labor never became aesthetic or economic, one does not contradict the other.
on what basis would economy and aesthetic contradict one another?
economy seems in ari's post like metric.
spinoza seemed opposed to metric (measurement) in his quest for aesthetic freedom.
how would you plug metrics into the aesthetic (creative) understanding ?




Le ven. 26 oct. 2018 à 01:07, Alice Yang <alice.lan.yang@gmail.com> a écrit :
Identity politics is class struggle. The nostalgic leftish dream of labor became aesthetic because it did not include women and the racially oppressed.

On Thu, Oct 25, 2018 at 6:47 PM ari <ari@kein.org> wrote:
 The primacy of identity has transmorphed class struggle into
 ressentiment politics. Generation identity is the bastard child of the
 failed alterglobalisation movement. If at a time when poverty is the
 source of wealth you insist on denying the economy matters, you sure
 inhabit culture, but it's a culture of denial.



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