Carmen Hermosillo on Sun, 17 May 1998 01:39:42 +0200 (MET DST)

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Re: <nettime> artists vs geeks

it's happening everywhere.

information is being annihilated by bulk.
as someone said

information wants to be cut and pasted.

On Sat, 16 May 1998, John Hopkins wrote:

> "You know, I have a deep unease about the re-posting of MSNBC articles on
> nettime, especially in their entirety.  I can understand editorial
> excerpting for the purposes of making a point or presenting information,
> but to presume that the repetition of such writing in the nettime listserv
> somehow strengthens our community, I don't know."
> "I have spent much time and concentration to arrange certain types of
> filers for incoming information (applying single-frequency filters like
> *allow anything from Tapio in and read it*, or *check out most things on
> nettime* or *talk to certain friends on the phone and ponder what they say
> to me* and such MANUAL filtration techniques like *don't read the Wall
> Street Journal* (I made this rule after living some years in the Belly of
> the Multinational Beast (an engineer for a large oil company) consuming the
> BUSINESS NEWS of the DAY when I was flying First Class to countries where
> my own operations were to get the oil, at whatever the local cost)... "
> I started writing the preceeding to nettime a couple weeks ago, noticing
> that suddenly almost every posting appearing in nettime has been lifted
> from what I would term mainstream media, I never finished, and have since
> noticed the continuing string of articles.  While, granted, I trust the
> nettime filter system implicitly, I wonder has occurred with nettime -- has
> anyone else been affected by this shift?  Am I paranoid?  Has anything
> really changed?  What is going on?  Don't we have voices?  Isn't silence
> better?  (speaking as a networker who only rarely contributes to the
> listserv side of nettime, but who more often is in individual
> communications with many of you).  I feel like something has slipped, has
> been lost, some momentum drained.  Does Bill Gates' invitation to us have
> anything to do with this?
> hmmmmm
> John
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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> ON THE ROAD, teaching in Tornio, Finland
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