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[Nettime-bold] Re: nettime William Gibsons Pattern Recognition and Ethno
J-D marston on Tue, 25 Feb 2003 23:35:01 +0100 (CET)


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Paul aka Subliminal Inc.,

All three actually. 

First, I was responding to the gaseous nature of your post concerning the
intersections of advertising and freewheeling-'droppin-science' coded
languages of the 'NOW' a'la sitiuationist conceptuals; moreover, how that
relates to the fiberous nature of 'the old left'... 

Second, I wanted to point out the interesting point that Spooky (being you,
not the character of your upcoming novel) was an organ of the GAP campaign
-- or as you like to put it, the global vernacular of GAP Inc. -- here in
New York City. I'm not saying it compromises your ability to comment with
any depth, as there are many cult studs that are busy deciphering the
semilogical and linguisic markers of advertising. But to me, that is just
'mad boring'. Its the surface. The spectacle. The depthless sheen of
unreality. Kinda like your comments. The real language is in finance and
economics, not hidden in the models bra. 

You think the 'old left' is petrified. You're not alone. You think the left
should study Diesel ads to be 1. alot smarter  2. alot more dynamic? You
are alone, I hope. 

And actually, there are folks in Kansas, but what would they matter to the
'NOW.'

J

On 25 Feb 2003, Paul D. Miller wrote:
> J - not sure what you mean. Situationnist material? Advertising? Or 
> "Spooky" - who is a character in my upcoming novel? Please clarify 
> what this has to do with your comments. This kind of stuff is mad 
> boring.
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> >  > DJ Spooky - WHAT are you talking about???
> >  >
> >  > >Gibson understands ADVERTISING as a kind of
> >  > > Situationist
> >  > > detournement
> >  >
> >
> >Wasn't it "Spooky that Sublimated Kid" who lent himself to the inspired
GAP
> >advertisements here in Manhattan a year or so ago?  Its all posture, and
it
> >really is Spooky.
> >
> >j-
> >
> >usemenow.com
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