Pit Schultz on Fri, 2 Feb 2007 07:25:25 +0100 (CET) |
[Date Prev] [Date Next] [Thread Prev] [Thread Next] [Date Index] [Thread Index]
Re: <nettime> shocklogs wikipedia entry |
there are many examples like this. wikipedians are quite tolerant to people adding their own names if they play in a band etc. but neologisms do not easily get in, especially if they are derivates of established ones - mostly when they do not pass the "google test". if a notion is not established with maybe 20 to 30 sources, it tends to get deleted. once you got it on boingboing it??s widely found. see bruce sterling??s "spime". so does this open some chances to SEO and viral marketing spin doctoring? certainly many companies would love to attach themselves to neologisms, this is one of the sources of this suspicious editing culture. it is rarely without a self interest that someone fights to get a certain notion established early. once it is established it is sometimes harder to prove that it was just you who invented it, so here you have the analogy to company brands. we had a similar debate in 2004 arround the establishment of "freies kulturradio" on the german wikipedia. there is was clearly the community of "freies radio" and "kulturradio" who didn??t like the term. even if there are a few radios using it today, it didn??t got established widely or survived more than a few months on wikipedia.de the issue with foreign language is really simple. if sources are in dutch, get it on the dutch wikipedia. that has nothing to do with nationalism but with language. it will be certainly no problem to use an english name either, in fact it could be just a dutch phenomenon? see handy in germany, it is used for mobile phones, sounds english, but is only to be found on the german wikipedia. (ok, millions of people use this word..) the question is much more would it be possible to get this term into any other jargon watch, dictionary or language book first? if this is possible than wikipedia would have a problem, else it is hard to decide where vanity publishing starts and where pluralism ends. # distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: majordomo@bbs.thing.net and "info nettime-l" in the msg body # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@bbs.thing.net