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Re: <nettime> has the time for an alternative to ted talk videos finally
Mark Simpkins on Mon, 8 Apr 2013 14:04:48 +0200 (CEST)


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Re: <nettime> has the time for an alternative to ted talk videos finally come?


I know the immediate reaction is to 'create' an alternative to the TED
model, (videos from which I find useful but I think that the whole model is
one of reductionism, simplification in communication and almost that sop of
wortheyness 'oh look there is a TED video on the topic, someone is doing
something, As You Were').

It's what we wanted to do when I first posited the geekyoto conference (a
UK Ted, etc etc) when of course I had not the resource, energy, access or
frankly the need to try and create that.

As Jon describes it, very quickly under the surface of the immediate TED
videos you can start to find the complex places for broad, landscapes of
discussion and action or even in depth (oh, so in depth) work (to the point
that you can almost become as equally unable to act as you do after
watching a TED video and then going back to what you were doing).

I have just been reading Robert McChesneys 'Rich Media, Poor Democracy'
about the lack of public consultation in the US governments policy on
Digital TV and Internet.

The problem is not more or alternative TED videos, or even concern about in
depth discussion, its to do with engaging and getting other people involved
in these discussions.

As geeks we understand the 'underlying operating system of the world' or
are at least better placed to examine it and attempt to describe it, we
need more access and sharing of spaces to allow people to find this
material and learn from it and add to it and be critical of it and to be
open and inclusive of this and not technocratic about it.

There, I don't think I have answered the original idea and probably rambled.

sorry.

mark

(first post on nettime after too many years).




On 7 April 2013 15:22, Jon Lebkowsky <jon.lebkowsky {AT} gmail.com> wrote:

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> Don't we already have alternatives? This list, for instance, and salons,
> meetings, ongoing conversations, longer and more complex explorations,
> whole sprawling feasts compared to the TED fast-food approach. But perhaps
> we need something more visible and targeted, explicitly a response to the
> TED approach.
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