Morlock Elloi on Thu, 31 Jan 2019 17:38:02 +0100 (CET) |
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The practical question is how to develop a group immunity without matching $$$. A Party of Abstinence?
On 1/31/19, 02:23, Felix Stalder wrote:
You are absolutely right, these work in different registers, but I don't think there is a clear hierarchical relations between them like in a technological stack where one layer builds upon the other. It's more like these are different ways to structure our understanding of, and agency in, social reality and they co-exist at the same time. Ideally, one would more or less balance out the deficits of the other, but at the moment, it's rather less than more. So the idea would be and with one add yet other registers, or frames, then different ways of understanding, and acting in, reality might be opened up. Felix On 30.01.19 14:31, Morlock Elloi wrote:The three work on different protocol layers, going from top to low level (in OSI terms think of them as Application, Transport and Physical layers): 1. Voting for someone involves some "thinking", in the sense "Is A better for me/my village/guild than B?" 2. Mass media operates by displacing 1:1 human input/gossip with 1:many input, and is essential for creating group identity beyond the village (starting with Bible). 3. Social media, the latest entrant, works (the real work, not the veneer) below the perception level, by exploiting finite nature of wetware, somewhat similar to DoS. If you don't have access to data (you don't), there is no way to know how exactly it works. There are interactions between the three, mostly one-way, but it's a mistake to consider them operating at the same or even remotely similar level. None of them displaces the other, but the lower ones change the ground for the higher ones. On 1/30/19, 04:29, Felix Stalder wrote:Repesentative democracy: institutional capture by special interests and money necessary to run a political campaigns. Mass media: small group of professional writers/speakers with narrow set of opinions and often unacknowledged conflicts of interest. Social Media: polarization of opinion due to the speed and brevity of exchanges and the focus of the platforms on producing segmented "engagement".# distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:# distributed via <nettime>: no commercial use without permission # <nettime> is a moderated mailing list for net criticism, # collaborative text filtering and cultural politics of the nets # more info: http://mx.kein.org/mailman/listinfo/nettime-l # archive: http://www.nettime.org contact: nettime@kein.org # @nettime_bot tweets mail w/ sender unless #ANON is in Subject:
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